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    About 1/3 of the guys I shoot with shoot 1 1/8 oz in tournaments and the rest shoot 1 oz. I like the idea of more BB's downrange but recoil can be sharp on some of the loads I have tried. I would be interested in what ya'll think about it?

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    Originally posted by deadapair View Post
    About 1/3 of the guys I shoot with shoot 1 1/8 oz in tournaments and the rest shoot 1 oz. I like the idea of more BB's downrange but recoil can be sharp on some of the loads I have tried. I would be interested in what ya'll think about it?
    If the goal is having the most amount of pellets downrange, maybe you can shoot your 1oz but use 8's as a compromise. There are approximately the same amount of bbs going down range in a 1oz 8 and a 1 1/8oz 7.5. Of course, for maximum bbs, 1 1/8oz 8's will give you another 50 or so bbs over the previously discussed loads.

    What shells have you tried? If they are cheaper shells, maybe that could be part of the problem with the recoil.
    Last edited by StraightCashHomie; December 19th, 2018, 03:29 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by deadapair View Post
      About 1/3 of the guys I shoot with shoot 1 1/8 oz in tournaments and the rest shoot 1 oz. I like the idea of more BB's downrange but recoil can be sharp on some of the loads I have tried. I would be interested in what ya'll think about it?
      In a vacuum, I think it’s obvious 1 oz recoils less than 1 1/8.

      For me, that reduced recoil allowed me to have more energy/be less fatigued deeper into rounds and to control the muzzle better between shots 1 and 2. All of that helped me to maintain good form for longer and to make better moves to targets, which resulted in hitting more targets. I think I gained way more targets from the improved moves and ability to center than I ever would have from an extra 40-50 bbs.

      Ask yourself if the recoil from 1 1/8 oz is having the same negative effect on you. It may not be. I know there are other factors, but try to focus just on the shell’s effect. You already mentioned some 1 1/8 oz shells sting you. A higher quality 1 1/8 might recoil less than a lower quality 1 1/8, but I think it’ll still pack more punch than a 1 oz.

      Hope it helps. YMMV
      Last edited by JGarza; December 19th, 2018, 05:10 PM.

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      • #4
        FITASC can be longer and more challenging than English Sporting and 1oz does the job. From what I’ve read in olympic skeet, when they went to 7/8 oz shot, the scores actually went up.

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        • #5
          When I started in this game, I totally believed the mantra more pellets downrange would naturally = more X's on the scorecard. The issue with this axiom is it assumes the more pellets creates a larger and/or more dense pattern at the target -- which is logical, and may actually be the case. But it totally ignores the negative effects of accumulated recoil -- which IMHO is very real...

          For me, I tracked my score-cards back then and noticed early on I would fade at around the 65-target point on most clays courses regardless of whether the station was easy or tough. I asked my instructor at the time about it, and he said it was recoil fatigue, and precisely why he shot 1oz 1200 fps loads. I gave them a try, and after a few tournaments saw my average go up. Been shooting 1oz ever since. The caveat is I also use "enough" choke, which may be a half-step tighter than what some 1-1/8th oz load shooters use...
          My stuff: K-80 w/ S&S custom Stock and 32" flat rib, thin-wall choked barrels; Castellani vest or jacket or Lonesome Charlie pouch, Pilla glasses, Bornaghi Star or Gold 1oz 7-½'s @ 1250 fps ammo.

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          • #6
            I have recently started using 7/8oz (24g) #9's (ISSF skeet load) for skeet (mostly American) and have been very impressed and will use them by choice when I can get them. No, I haven't patterned them but down range performance is what counts and they break skeet targets nicely and may be a slight advantage on doubles? I will start using them for closer sporting targets too as I generally use a mix of #7.5's and #9's.

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            • #7
              I prefer 1oz #7.5 1200-1250 for everything, has been shooting this spec for about 5 years. This load has less recoil than the comparable 1-1/8oz, which results in less fatigue especially noticeable when I shoot two or more events on the same day. And, as added bonus, no need to switch to a different load for FITASC.
              Krieghoff : Extreme Chokes : Pilla : Fiocchi

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